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January 12th, 2006
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I'm a chemist, right? I have taken courses in Organic Chemistry, Inorganic Chemistry, Physical Chemistry and BioChem. Perhaps this is why a Tyson commercial pissed me off so. But it's my opinion that everyone that heard it should have derided it.

They say, in pretty much these words: "Our chickens are grown without hormones or steroids".

Mother Fucking LIARS. No living thing grows without hormones and I really don't appreciate you insinuating otherwise. And steroids ARE hormones, you god damned perpetuators of hysteria and fear!



Okay, I think I can step off this soap box now.

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From:clevermanka
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:26 pm (UTC)
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I think they probably mean artificial and/or injected hormones or steroids.

I don't know that they're lying, but rather they're trying to make the words fit easily into a 15 or 30 second spot. Similar to when people talk about sports figures "taking steriods" as opposed to being prescribed steriods to combat illness. Most people know they aren't the same thing. ...I think...
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From:stormknight
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:32 pm (UTC)
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Steroids = "Evil" thanks to public perception.

Too bad Steroids = Asthma Treatment, as well. Though tell that to Joe Blow.
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From:clevermanka
Date:January 12th, 2006 04:09 pm (UTC)
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Asthma Treatment, as well. Though tell that to Joe Blow

Ah! The pun! The pun! It kills me! LOL!
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From:solan_t
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:32 pm (UTC)
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If they had said 'injected' or 'additional' or anything else to suggest 'added by human choice' I wouldn't have been nearly as upset. But they didn't. They were playing to people's fear and ignorance, and I HATE that.
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From:roseconnelly
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:33 pm (UTC)
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IAWTC

I think they are marketing rather than lying, but those lines often blur.

I know how you feel though. I've been known to flip off AOL commercials.
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From:solan_t
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:36 pm (UTC)
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IAWTC is new to me. What does it stand for?
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From:silverfae
Date:January 12th, 2006 04:34 pm (UTC)
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I could ask Jay to ask his birthfam down in Ark. They make their fortunes raising cluckers for Tyson.
The part I find sad is that if anyone lets one of the flock out of the coop, it can't be used for food because it's been "contaminated" by being outside.
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From:solan_t
Date:January 12th, 2006 04:38 pm (UTC)
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Extraordinary. Contaminated by being outside. And yet... I understand... Perhaps I have been in the pharmaceutics industry too long.
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From:stormknight
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:30 pm (UTC)
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OoooRAH!

You see. This is why I generally disagree with those that make a point about how animals are "Abused" by the introduction of additional amounts of growth hormones and the like. It is because they make rediculous statements like that, using scientific terms as if they are merely Corporate Buzzwords.

"Steriods," thanks to their use in Sports for Performance Enhancement, have become the boogeyman of the 21st Century. "Hormone" is becomoning one as well, through its link with "Steroid," which you have just pointed out, is ludicrous because of the fact that a steroid is a type of hormone.

And now I'll make this comment, to fuel a different arguement. SO WHAT if I am having a steak or a chicken that has been enhanced through growth-hormones to provide more meat. That's not evil, it's FUCKING EFFICIENCY.

You want us to stop cutting down the rain forests in Brazil for pasture land, yet when someone develops a method to make better use of the limited pasture lands, you FUCKING WHINE!

Gods damn it!

Sorry for the hijack, Kerri. Just want to vent along.
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From:solan_t
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:34 pm (UTC)
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Oh, I understand completely!
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From:stormknight
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:37 pm (UTC)
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And you've provided something for me to post about in my own journal. You've done the world a (Dis)service! ;o)
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From:roseconnelly
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:39 pm (UTC)
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Working for a utility company, we have tried to put up wind farms in less populated areas of Kansas for cleaner energy production, but we have to fight people because they are worried they might scare off the prarie chickens. They want their electricity to run 24/7 because gawd forbid you miss the latest Law and Order, but we don't want any power plants or wind farms and so on...

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From:solan_t
Date:January 12th, 2006 03:43 pm (UTC)
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I have also heard the arguement against wind farms because they are 'ugly'. Fucking Short-sighted Morons!


Think wind turbines are awesome. An entire field of them would be inspiring. And you can grow crops below them, or pasture cattle, there's no polutions (past making them in the first place) and their effect on wind currents is minimal (but not non-existant, one should consider that).
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From:silverfae
Date:January 12th, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC)
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I can see your point, and it would be more agreeable to me if cattle raised for beef actually lived in pastures, but for the most part, they don't.
My beef (groan) is more with antibiotics than growth hormones, but
I'm also really not inclined to keep ingesting whatever it is that's making chickens and turkeys so large-breasted that they can't even stand up straight. Judging from the increase in my own breast size (NOT a welcome thing, btw) with no other weight increase, I can't help but think that tis somehow being passed along the food chain.
or...
Obesity in America? Could it possibly be a result of drinking a fluid that meant to nourish 600 LB critters?
Got milk?
yeh, and got a weight problem to go along with it.
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From:aminita
Date:January 13th, 2006 05:25 pm (UTC)
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Don't get me wrong we like our meat.

But first place we go in the grocery store is the PRODUCE. "GIVE ME MY VEGGIES" I have a small garden in the summer. I like home gown veggies they definitely taste better.

I also make sure that the soil I grow them in is as good as I can get it. So they are as good as they can be. Also as free of chemicals as possible.

I know we have to use them. I do not know how valid the study was or for sure where is was supposed to be. They compared drawings from children where there was a lot of pesticides as such used to where there wes little. The difference was staggering.

DON'T get your hackles up I am sure this was probably propaganda. But I still feel that a LOT of sickness in people and animals is due to all the crud we our dumping into the soil.

We have to do some thing just not sure what.
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