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June 12th, 2008
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Oh, for frak's sake.
Douglas County is under another Tornado watch.



Storm after storm after storm. I can't remember that last time this happened.... Was it 1993?

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From:affreca
Date:June 12th, 2008 08:52 pm (UTC)
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Sounds like '93 to me.
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From:affreca
Date:June 12th, 2008 08:59 pm (UTC)
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Glad we don't have it as bad as further east. I don't want to see a repeat of this (check 5th slide down). There is a reason all the houses in my neighborhood are less than 60 years old.
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From:oldwolf
Date:June 12th, 2008 09:06 pm (UTC)
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Be safe!

It's 90 & sunny with %40 humidity here.
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From:bodandra
Date:June 12th, 2008 09:10 pm (UTC)
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That was definitely in 1993.
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From:dragonet2
Date:June 12th, 2008 09:30 pm (UTC)

it's setting up to look like 1993.

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The storms are doing what is called 'entraining', in that the fronts keep forming up in the same places and once the storms get started, they feed on one another.

It's very scary. i have a friend who lives just east of the Ameristar casino here in KC. Basically she's in a low place between the levee and the bluffs that Hunt Midwest has caves in and Worlds/Oceans of Fun are on top of.

In 1993 a bunch of us KaCSFFans went up and helped sandbag her house. If her father had not had the presence of mind to build it up on a foundation, she would not be living there still. There were a number of little, cheap houses built on slabs in the neighborhood had 18" of water standing in them for three months and ended up abandoned. Drainage may have been improved by the Ameristar, but I would not bet on it. It is very subtle, but the casino properties are raised up a bit, that will likely keep them high and dry.

A funny factoiod: I was working for the Ad agency at the time and we'd been helping do PR on a golf course on the banks around the old downtown airport. Plans sort of went 'pffft!"
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From:oldwolf
Date:June 12th, 2008 09:52 pm (UTC)
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Oh jeez. I hope that's not near Havre? My bro-inlaws younger brother just moved there.
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From:solan_t
Date:June 12th, 2008 10:02 pm (UTC)
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Can't say I have heard of Havre before. But I suspect most all of Kansas is also under this same watch. It's just that kind of weather.
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From:oldwolf
Date:June 12th, 2008 10:06 pm (UTC)
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Havre is small community a bit SE of Washington City.
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From:electron_pusher
Date:June 13th, 2008 04:53 pm (UTC)
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Once in KS we learned that even if it was near you, there's an insanely good chance you'll be just fine. Real stats say you are much more likely to die from any other cause.

There's a KS joke. How can you tell natives from visiting folks ? When the Tornado sirens go off the visitors run and hide and the natives go outside.

The reason isn't because we're stupid, but because tornado's don't move fast, have a very narrow footprint (well, usually, but the very biggest are still only a mile wide), and you can see where it's going (and if it's coming to you you can get into shelter quickly).

Peronally, I've gotten to where I just trust the odds. I don't even pay attention to Tornado WARNINGS in my area. OK, that's not entirely true, I just listen and watch outside every now and then. And I've only been here 8 years :)
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From:oldwolf
Date:June 13th, 2008 05:06 pm (UTC)
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Only a mile wide? I've heard of them. Yeah, they have a mile wide fotprint, leave devastation 5 miles wide, and travel how far? Even if it's a few yards, it's still a huge destruction zone.

I saw one home movie on tv, the guy was filming a twister, and the zoom in on the beams it was throwing around turned out to be semi trucks with the trailers still attached.

And I also heard on the news about that dog that survived being moved by a twister several miles. I still don't know if that one's true or not. But all in all, twisters aren't to be messed with.
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From:electron_pusher
Date:June 13th, 2008 05:12 pm (UTC)
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Well, you didn't get my point.

I completely agree, what they hit they destroy, and aren't to be messed with.

The F-5Es are rare. Most are very narrow and hit next to nothing (statistically). The media makes a big deal, rightly, when something does get hit because it's toast.

But, my point is they're not to be scared of, esp from afar.
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From:oldwolf
Date:June 13th, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)
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Yer right. And CA is far enough for me.
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From:solan_t
Date:June 13th, 2008 05:33 pm (UTC)
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Earthquakes can't be predicted. They happen, and you react AS or AFTER they start happening.

Cyclones/hurricanes happen and you have several days warning, but HUGES swaths of destruction lay in their wake.


Tornadoes don't give as much warning as a hurricane, but usually more than an earthquake. And they tend to be small enough you just aren't likely to get hit - you really can stand still and let it pass you by.


Really, I think I might just prefer tornadoes.
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From:oldwolf
Date:June 13th, 2008 05:41 pm (UTC)
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Actually in some cases there are precurser waves, so to an extent, they can be predicted.

But I'd rather put up with having the ground move a little bit every few decades, than to have my house moved to a new zip code or destroyed every year.
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From:solan_t
Date:June 13th, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
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I have lived here more than 10 years and NEVER had a tornado be closer than 2 miles from where I lived. Having one's house destroyed by a tornado is a FREAK occurance. Not a yearly one.



And I have lived through earthquakes - slept through them as well, as I lived in SoCal for about 10 years, too.

Edited at 2008-06-13 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From:affreca
Date:June 13th, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)
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Sounds like we just squeeked by for tornadoes.
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From:electron_pusher
Date:June 13th, 2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
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I noticed as a kid (i.e. teens) that the earth has an approximately 7 year cycle in weather. I've been watching ever since and keep seeing multiples of approx 7 in bad bad weather.

For example, we're 15 years (approx 7 *2) from 1993, and we're seeing insane flooding starting in teh mid-west.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/13/midwest.flooding.ap/index.html


For example.

So, if we do flood this year I wouldn't be suprised.



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From:oldwolf
Date:June 13th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
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I wonder if this coincides with the suns 7yr sunspot cycle???
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